Setlist.fm plagiarism or how I became a thief (of my own work)

Well……I have always considered myself as a good guy. I have been running my website for almost ten years and I got lots of requests thru the years and I have tried my best to help out people, provided material for half dozen books, sent freebie CDs and digital recordings for people I barely knew etc.  But I just realised that some people think (or could think) that I’m thief or at least a plagiarist… Let me tell you how it came about…

Few weeks ago I got an email from a young fan of Bauhaus, he requested me to send him a recording of an old gig. He stated that he has nothing to send in return but I didn’t mind as I like to do favours. I sent it to him and got a heartfelt ‘thank you’ email but there was something in it that really shocked me. He said it must have been huge work to copy all those Bauhaus setlists from setlist.fm onto my website. I said “What???!!!” and went to setlist.fm to see that most of setlists from my website now appear there. ALMOST EVERY setlist that I collected and worked out from old bootleg recordings and stuff I got from other fans have been added to that website by Trentkers and Blue_Meany (and maybe some more users ) without asking me, giving credits or at least adding a simple link to my website. I wouldn’t mind if it would be a couple of setlists but I speak about few hundreds. I know it’s very hard to prove it, but i’m pretty sure about it. Just take a look at the following examples.

Exactly the same list of gigs here and there. What I’m missing is also missing there, what I have is also available there…

Setlist for Den Haag 81 gig. They even reproduced my “Live improvisation” comments for Colours (and they also called the different pieces Part I, Part II and Part III as I did, spooky isn’t it?)

Setlist for David J Chicago 1990 gig. They made the same mistake as I did because this setlist is a pretty much mixed (first 6 songs should have been in mid-section)

 

I believe there is no such thing as copyright for this material but people should respect other people’s work. I have worked out most of the setlists myself, listened over 500+ hours of music, compared different versions of songs etc, and maintained my website for almost 10 years.

And now somebody just came and suggested that I have lifted material from setlistt.fm, and that really pissed me off, that people think I’m a thief even though I have put serious work onto my website…I think that using (or ‘stealing’ if I want to be frank) that huge amount of work without any permission is such an awful thing that I had to say something about it.

 

That’s something that I really don’t like about Internet. People think that just because things are up there they could be used without permission. I have seen lots of material from my website floating on various websites and social media and mostly without linking source or giving credits. I believe that you came across with that great photos of Bauhaus with Nico @ Manchester 1981? That photos were made by Akiforhair and been published on my website first with credits and thanks to the author who was kind enough to digitise them for me. And then somebody just shared that pictures without credits and you know the rest. They were used everywhere, sometimes even with wrong date/venue (Salford Uni) but always without mentioning the photographer. That’s how this world works now.

 

So, please people, do RESPECT each other and each other’s work and ask before posting/sharing/using something that don’t belong to you…

 

Thanks for reading.

 

www.bauhausgigguide.info is back

UPDATE 2017-12-07:
After serious issues with OpenShift I had to move my website again. Now I have an own virtual server so hopefully it will work much more reliable than before…

Just a short note to let you know that my Bauhaus Gig Guide website is available again. Site has been moved from OpenShift V2 to OpenShift V3. Due technical problems with the new platform some features have been removed and you could also experience slower performance, please be patient. Thanks.

Bauhausgigguide.info went down

Sad to say but my Bauhaus Gig Guide website went down yesterday due lack of background service. OpenShift V2 has reached end of life and despite the fact that I had spent long hours with migrating to V3 I still have serious problems with it. Unfortunately it’s very unlikely that I can solve this problems in a foreseeable future so I might need to move my site again. That’s pretty sad as OpenShift V2 had worked as charm for years. Before that I had tried several free providers and moved my site from one to another half dozen times and that was very exhausting job, so I’m not in a best mood to start struggling with that again…So I will give OpenShift V3 a week or two before that…

Anyway, If you could suggest a reliable free PHP/MySql provider then please let me know. Thanks.